Orrin Keepnews, in 2002 |
In
my 20 years as Director of the Fillius Jazz Archive I have learned of the
interconnectedness in the jazz world. It seems there are only one or two
degrees of separation between jazz artists and the circle of producers, record
executives, journalists and fans that surround the musicians. Orrin Keepnews,
record producer and co-owner of Riverside Records, signed Cannonball Adderley
to his label. Cannonball employed pianist Junior Mance early in his career. The
liner notes to Junior’s LP entitled “Harlem Lullaby” were written by Orrin
Keepnews. This record was produced by Joel Dorn, who released Cannonball
Adderley live dates on Hyena records as well as archival recordings by Joe
Williams. This is the same Joe Williams who sang the lead role in Cannonball
Adderley’s musical “Big Man,” released on Fantasy records. Fantasy Records
hired Orrin Keepnews in 1972 as Director of Jazz Productions and to oversee
reissues of recordings from Riverside Records. And so it goes.
We
regularly note the passing of jazz artists who are in their 80s and 90s, and
the people who produced them have also reached these golden years. Orrin is
recognized as one of the most important producers, writers, and record company
owners in the history of jazz, and is responsible for numerous recordings by
Bill Evans, Wes Montgomery, Thelonious Monk, and Cannonball Adderley. He
described the role of a producer as he saw it, in our interview recorded in San
Francisco in 2002:
MR: I want to congratulate you on the contribution
you’ve made to the art form called jazz. It’s really quite amazing the things
you’ve been involved in and the careers that you have helped.
OK: Well I must admit that I look back on it
with a good deal of satisfaction. I’ve been very fortunate because in this
business in particular, a lot of the associations that you form, at least
initially, are accidental as hell. If someone tells me that I have been helpful
to this or that career, that’s exactly the thing that I want to hear because I
have always looked on the role of the producer in a very specific way. Now one
of the hardest things, and I’ve been at it, I’m getting perilously close to my
fiftieth anniversary in this business, but I still have to pause usually when
I’m asked to make some kind of definition of what it is I do. Because for
better or worse, I don’t know about other things because I’ve only done this
really, but jazz record producers do a little bit of everything, as there is
always a shortage of personnel, and to me the most important role is what I
have taken to repetitiously referring to as being a catalytic agent. That I am
supposed to create the circumstances under which the artist can work most
effectively. I’ve finally got it boiled down to that one mantra and that’s what
I am, that’s what I do. That statement is generally true, but the details of
its implementation are constantly changing. There are almost literally no two
artists who can be dealt with in the same way. There are perhaps no two record
dates that can be dealt with in the same way. That may be pushing it a little
bit, but fundamentally that to me is what the continuing challenge is all
about. That’s why I didn’t get bored a long time ago with doing this. My job
was to do two things. One is to appreciate and the other is to facilitate. And
I usually don’t use such glorious words to describe it, but I’ve always been
the guy that was able to get it done, which kind of surprises me sometimes. I
don’t think of myself as being firm, as being decision-maker, I certainly do
not believe in the auteur theory of jazz direction. I don’t think, and there
have been people, and we won’t bother to name names, but there have been other
jazz record producers who clearly do think of themselves as king makers. And I
never did. It just got to be the point of hey, somebody’s got to make the
decision and okay, that’s one of the things that I’m here for. Sometimes you
might make decisions because nobody else is even in the position to even be
aware of the need for a decision.
Like many men
of his generation, Orrin served in the military during the World War II years.
I found his recollections to be of particular interest:
MR: Let me go backwards just a little bit. You
were in the South Pacific.
OK: I was on Guam. I was a navigator radar
operator on B-29s. I did a lot of dropping of bombs on Japan, which I’m
resolutely not proud of for the rest of my life.
MR: At that time you were 23?
OK: 22 maybe, around in there.
MR: How did you feel about it at the time?
OK: At the time you didn’t feel about it. I mean
I’m no great expert on it but there were two years in my life where I was
involved in armed conflict and I think that one of the ways in which some of us
emotionally survive was a form of anesthetizing yourself. You did not think
about what you were doing. I don’t think, unfortunately at the end of the war,
after the war was over, I flew a couple of missions where we were taking a
batch of generals up to evaluate what had been done to Tokyo. So we flew in the
daytime at pretty low levels over Tokyo, which is something I had never done
before, and I was able to see Tokyo. I’ll take a lot of credit for the fact
that Tokyo was a modern city that is almost entirely a post-war city. It looked
to me to be about 50 percent burned out, I mean put it that way. And that was
the first time, the shock of that hit me. Not to turn this into too much of a
war memoir but basically between IM flights we didn’t do very much daytime
formation bombing which involved demolition bombs. We normally did night
flights where you just flew in a single file so basically you were following at
a decent interval the plane ahead of you and we were dropping incendiary bombs
so that what you did was it was a very lazy form of bombing, you just dropped
on the fires that were in front of you. And if the first guy had been way off
target, we all were because nobody did anything else but that. But the whole
point there was that you could be very detached. You didn’t have to force
yourself to think that you really were causing fires to happen in a large
metropolitan city that was there. And you could block that out pretty good
because hey, you had no alternative. This is what you were doing in the great
war and I’ve long since given up figuring out whether this was, in many
respects, a good or a bad thing. However, at this time of year as we get around
the middle of August every year I am forced to think that in my personal
opinion the damn atom bomb never should have been dropped. And let’s not get
into the aesthetics or morality of that, but you have led me to this point in
time so I make that statement. But you blot it out, the implications of what
you were doing, I think because it was pretty necessary.
MR: Right. Were the Japanese putting up a
defense against your planes at that time?
OK: In a lot of stages no. There was always a
fair amount of antiaircraft fire but there were virtually no fighter planes. I
mean the Japanese Air Force was pretty much shot to hell in the last months of
the war which is the time I was primarily there.
Orrin saw the
proliferation of jazz education programs and the advance of audio technology in
an informative light:
MR: Jazz has been elevated to a high state of
art these days. Do you think it’s been positive for jazz?
OK: That’s a hard question to answer. I do feel
that when I have attended the last few jazz educators conventions I used to
frown on jazz education because those God damn stage band so-called which were
nothing but tired old big band charts and there were important things like the
fact that if it wasn’t for North Texas State how would Woody Herman ever get
new players for his band, all those clichés of the past. But the fact is I
think that to some degree jazz education has done a wonderful job, it has
progressed, there are people learning things on stages of the game where people
never were learning before. As long as you recognize there is only one of a
series of tools and it is by no means the only way to go. So that I would say
on the whole, hey, if you asked me did I think that multi-track recordings was
a positive or a negative experience I’d say pretty much the same thing. If you
keep it under control it’s just fine. If you use it, if you don’t let it use
you, if you use the fact of jazz education, the proliferation of it in so many
places, if you use that to the purposes of making good jazz it’s fine. But
don’t let it run away with you. I feel that way about technical progress. I
mean I love digital recording. I have always been of several minds about
multi-track for just that reason, I don’t want the bass player to be able to
punch in the right notes, I want it to be important what notes they were
playing when they were listening to him while they were playing. So that makes
me an anachronism in some ways I know. But so be it.
Orrin passed
away on March 1, one day shy of his 92nd birthday. The jazz world
was fortunate to have had him as an integral force for over six decades.
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